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Springwood Town Centre Stakeholder Workshop
Report on Workshop held on 29 March 2007
Prepared by Julian Crawford as Facilitator
5 April 2007
Source: Council Meeting 24 April 2007 - Business Paper (PDF 6.2 MB) - Item 8
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Springwood Town Centre Stakeholder Workshop

"The concept under consideration involves the use or sale of significant public assets and possible changes to the operation of the shopping centre. It is considered essential that the Council enter into some form of community consultation to both gather valuable community opinion/knowledge and to inform the community about the Council's possible intentions in undertaking an Expressions of Interest process."
(Council Briefing Paper 30/1/07)

Table of contents

1. Summary

1.1. Structure of this Report

This Report has been prepared by Julian Crawford of EcoSTEPS as primary facilitator following the Springwood Town Centre Stakeholder Workshop (the workshop) held on 29 March 2007.

The main purpose of this report is to summarise the output from the workshop. In addition, the use of Feedback Forms (Pre- arid Post- per Appendix 1 & 2) allowed EcoSTEPS to record both quantitative and qualitative comments on the workshop process which indicates the levels of attendee satisfaction with various elements and also some suggestions for future meetings. The outcomes are derived from the following sources in chronological order:

Written records

The main output of the workshop was in the form of the Post-it notes prepared individually and then synthesised and discussed in table groups. The summary report back from each of the Table Coordinators is given in Section 2 below.

Oral comments

Logistical details such as invitations, attendance and copies of relevant documents are not included in this report, as they are broadly canvassed in the covering report to Council.

1.2. Overall Observations

Given the objectives of the meeting and the fact that over fifty stakeholders attended during the course of the day and there was a broad range and depth of discussion, it is difficult to synthesise the overall comments and discussion without unduly editorialising.

Notwithstanding this, resulting from the workshop processes described in more detail below, a combination of individual written comments made on the post-it notes and the table synthesis process and feedback in plenary session gave rise to some pertinent overall observations by the facilitator for consideration by Council as it progresses this project. These are grouped as follows:

Council's Policies and Plans

Council's website lists a range of Policies and Plans, several of which appear to be directly relevant to this Project. In the context of this Stakeholder meeting, the following seem particularly pertinent:

In addition, in 2003 Blue Mountains City Council adopted the community endorsed 25 year Vision for the City of Blue Mountains. The 25 year Vision and Map for Action present a way forward for the City that aligns with the values of Blue Mountains people and an increasing world wide recognition of the need for us to live more sustainably.

Facilitators Suggestion: In future Council give explicit consideration to including reference to relevant Council Policies & Plans in the 'Information Pack' (or similar) to ensure consistency, transparency and comprehensiveness of process.

Diversity of Issues and Viewpoints

Attendees to the Workshop were by invitation from Council following a process designed to engage a broad range of stakeholders at the meeting. As stated in the letter of invitation of 19 March 2007: "Your attendance would greatly assist Council in identifying issues and providing guidance to Council on this project."

The emphasis of the meeting on canvassing a variety of perspectives rather than attempting at that stage to prioritise issues was reinforced by David McGowan, BMCC in his opening presentation to the workshop.

The workshop process is considered to have successfully given participants several opportunities to give their views and all written material has been captured and recorded. This is illustrated in the following summary tables below:

Theme Topic Number of
post-it's
Percentage

Process

9

7%

Economic

23

18%

Traffic

13

10%

Planning

28

22%

Community

35

28%

Environment

12

10%

Other

5

4%

Total

125

100%

 

Site Specific Topic

Number of
post-it's I

Percentage

Northern Carpark

23

22%

Southern Carpark

26

25%

Civic Centre

50

50%

Other

4

3%

Total

103

100%

In addition, Q4 of the Post Feedback Form asked: "Having attended the workshop, what do you now feel are the two most important issues to be considered by Council as it moves forward with this project?" Responses to this question are given at Appendix 5.

The facilitator has performed a rough grouping exercise after the workshop using his best judgement to draw out the main areas of interest/concern. He gave consideration to further splitting the 'Consultation' grouping but a review of the comments in this group indicated that any further sub-grouping was likely to be considered somewhat arbitrary.

Topic

Number of
comments

Percentage

Consultation

26

50%

Economic

10

20%

Planning & Process

8

15%

Supermarket

8

15%

Total

52

100%

 

Facilitators Suggestion: Council take this diversity of issues and viewpoints into account when planning any further community consultation processes in connection with this project.

Community Consultation

As is evidenced by the summaries above, and the detail later in this report and appendices, many people raised issues in connection with both 'community' and 'consultation' and crossovers between the two.

It was not the intent, and nor was there sufficient time at the workshop, to explore fully all the issues and concerns raised by participants in regard to appropriate use and change in regard to the current community facilities.

Facilitators Suggestion: Council take into account the depth and breadth of stakeholder concerns relating to the future of community facilities and amenities in future community consultation processes.

Overall Process

In general, as can be seen from the detail of this report, many attendees expressed views in both oral and written submissions and comments that given the size, local significance and opportunities presented by the project there should be more community consultation. Further, this community consultation should be broad and timely (ie not rushed) to allow due consideration of all issues and factors. This included several requests for additional analytical and research work to be undertaken by Council as part of the project in regard to social, cultural, heritage, sustainability and other issues.

Facilitators Suggestion: The contents of this report be considered by Council in any review of the 'Project Milestones' (as presented on Pages 12 & 13 of the Information Pack) and overall project process.

2. Thematic and Site Specific Feedback

Table coordinators reported back on the following topics as summarised below (details provided in relevant appendices):

Themes

Site Specific

Process Table Group Feedback: David McGowan, BMCC

  1. DA must be complete before accepted
  2. Community consultation is basic to all research
  3. Community research should precede everything else
  4. Process should not be constrained by timetable. Put the brakes on developer push
  5. Use "local" consultants
  6. Businesses which will "attract" trade. Supermarket will push out existing businesses
  7. Wants the process to protect existing businesses
  8. Expert advisors on social infrastructure as well as traffic, etc. Part of the team upfront

Economic Table Group Feedback: Adrian Hack, HillPDA

  1. Increase office space
  2. Increase residential
  3. Carefully plan retail space
  4. Few landlords

Planning Table Group Feedback: Paul Cashel, BMCC

  1. Rents will not necessarily change
  2. Community facilities and accessibility retained
  3. Village atmosphere retained. Large developments will not help
  4. Tourism has been forgotten about. New PYC etc. IVY Markets. Upgrade facilities that are already there.
  5. Density height/views
  6. Consider heritage

Traffic Table Group Feedback: Carole Young, EcoSTEPS

  1. The issue of congestion at Hawkesbury/Macquarie Rds. RTA commitment to on/off ramps from Highway direct to Hawkesbury Rd (as ultimate solution). First stage, improve Hkw/Macq Rd. roundabout (possibly signage in peak hours to modulate traffic flow)
  2. David Rd. link? (Civic Centre site issue)
  3. Age care needs - motorised scooters access - Meals on Wheels access
  4. Provision of parking - net gain and space - Basement parking
  5. Access to subways retained/expanded
  6. Control truck access generated by development

Community Table Group Feedback: Angela Langdon, BMCC

  1. Community facilities - Where? Expansion? Refurbishment? Alternatives if site is developed
  2. Civic Centre heavily used by community. Location could be improved. Better links to public transport
  3. Social Study. What future? What now? Gaps? Clear terms of reference. What makes a village atmosphere? Is that the vision?
  4. More consultation Surveys, forums, workshops

Environment Table Group Feedback: Kirsty Tepper, BMCC

  1. Shop/Top housing/Minimise new subdivision
  2. Maintenance of existing developments
  3. Retention and storage of storm water for reuse
  4. Incorporate bushland and landscaping/Views
  5. Carbon Neutral development/Energy harvesting/Rain water harvesting
  6. Village atmosphere/How to ensure village survives while keeping village atmosphere

Northern Carpark Table Group Feedback: David McGowan, BMCC

  1. Design to include/provide community uses - Parking underneath - Views could be exploited - Link between Northern and Southern car parks
  2. Library could relocate here - close to Station
  3. Expand existing supermarket, rather than a new supermarket
  4. Native title needs to be checked.

Southern Carpark Table Group Feedback: Paul Cashel, BMCC

  1. Tourism again links to Dell, etc. - Tourist Centre
  2. Chamber of Commerce has a website
  3. Winmalee needs to be reviewed
  4. Town Square is not good
  5. Retain views
  6. Parking under and various types of development mainly residential plus deck for various uses, e.g.. Cafés and shops

Civic Centre Table Group Feedback: Angela Langdon, BMCC

  1. No-redevelopment of existing facilities - maintain but refurbish/ upgrade/improve
  2. Redevelop site - two options
    1. keep facilities together at current site - tots of links
    2. separate community and council services (Neighbourhood Centre/library/ Council Offices) from performing arts space/gallery - suggestion move community and council services to Nth carpark.
      Any redevelopment of Civic Centre etc will need public money as well as private $ to upgrade community facilities
  3. Braemer - do nothing/no redevelopment but improve presentation

3. Written records

Written records from the following sources are detailed below:

In addition, two written submissions from Blue Mountains Musical Society and Thelma Murphy were handed directly to the facilitator and these have been passed on to Council for consideration.

3.1. Feedback Forms - Pre

See sample form at Appendix 1. This form is primarily designed as part of an 'icebreaker' exercise and so only the responses to Question 1 have been analysed.

1. How would you describe your level of understanding of the Springwood Town

Centre redevelopment project?

Response Options

Numbers

Percentage

Know nothing

2

5%

Know a little

24

60%

Know a fair bit

9

23%

Know a lot

5

13%

Totals

40

100%

The spread of responses is as anticipated at the workshop design phase and confirms that the workshop plan and activities were likely to have been pitched appropriately.

3.2. 'Post-it' note process to identify issues under key themes

Following the introductory presentations by invited experts on a range of issues, an exercise was conducted where participants were invited to record their comments on Post-it notes (Pink). These comments were then grouped under the following broad headings:

Each grouping except 'Other' was then allocated to a table with a nominated Table Coordinator and participants invited to join a table discussion of their choice. After a period of discussion, the Table Coordinators reported back the essence of their discussion to the plenary group from butcher's paper notes.

Full transcripts of all post-its and the butcher's paper summaries are recorded in Appendix 3.

In summary, the following numbers/percentages of post-it's were submitted in this exercise. Approximately three per person:

Theme topic

Number of
post-it's

Percentage

Process

9

7%

Economic

23

18%

Traffic

13

10%

Planning

28

22%

Community

35

28%

Environment

12

10%

Other

5

4%

Total

125

100%

3.3. 'Post-it' note process to identify issue by site

Following the Post-it exercise noted above which considered issues by key themes, a similar exercise was conducted where participants were invited to record their comments on site specific issues Post-it notes (Yellow). These comments were then grouped under the following broad headings:

Each grouping except 'Other' was then allocated to a table with a nominated Table Coordinator and participants invited to join a table discussion of their choice. After a period of discussion, the Table Coordinators reported back the essence of their discussion to the plenary group from butcher's paper notes.

Full transcripts of all post-its and the butcher's paper summaries are recorded in Appendix 4.

In summary, the following numbers/percentages of post-it's were submitted in this exercise. Approximately three per person:

Topic

Number of post-it's

Percentage

Northern Carpark

23

22%

Southern Carpark

26

25%

Civic Centre

50

50%

Other

4

3%

Total

103

100%

3.4. Feedback Forms - Post

Refer to sample form at Appendix 2. This form was primarily designed to capture participant feedback on the workshop process as a whole. However, two questions provided a further and final opportunity for comments.

A total of 31 responses were given. This number consistent with the numbers completing the Pre feedback form as that form was completed by a number of BMCC and EcoSTEPS facilitation staff attending (nine in all) who were not expected to complete the Post- form.

Summaries of the responses to the key question are given below. A full spreadsheet of all responses is available on request.

Q1: How do you rate today's workshop overall?

 

Content

Structure

Interaction

Venue

Facilitation

Total

Overall scores: 31 forms
 

3.0

3.0

3.1

2.7

3.2

3.1

Summary by numbers

Excellent

7

7

7

2

11

34

Good

18

17

21

23

14

93

Fair

6

7

3

3

6

25

Poor

0 0 0

3

0

3

Total Responses

31

31

31

31

31

155

Summary as %

Excellent

23%

23%

23%

6%

35%

22 %

Good

58%

55%

68%

74%

45%

60 %

Fair

19%

23%

10%

10%

19%

16 %

Poor

0%

0%

0%

10%

0%

2 %

Total Responses

100%

100%

100%

100%

100%

100 %

In the Overall Score above, a score of 3.0 equates to 'Good' and 4.0 to 'Excellent'. In EcoSTEPS experience, these scores are above average for this sort of workshop with a large group of people, a wide range of stakeholders and considerable diversity of opinions and views. These scores suggest that the workshop process achieved its planned process outcomes.

The score for Venue (2.7) acts as a 'control'. The fact that this aspect was marked most harshly reflects well on the balance of the aspects.

Overall 22% of responses were 'Excellent' and 60% 'Good' - a combined total of 82% which is most satisfactory.

Q2: Which particular elements of the workshop did you most like or find the most useful?

EcoSTEPS tabulated and broadly grouped responses from 31 forms to this question as follows:

Element most liked

Numbers

Percentage

All

5

16%

Discussion, Interaction, Diversity

9

29%

Exercises with Post-it's

8

26%

Information and briefings

5

16%

Civic Centre consideration

2

6%

Site specific discussions

2

6%

Totals

31

99%

Again these results are consistent with a well planned and well received program.

Q4: Having attended the workshop, what do you now feel are the two most important issues to be considered by Council as it moves forward with this project?

Responses to this question are given at Appendix 5. The facilitator then performed a rough grouping exercise after the workshop using his best judgement to draw out the main areas of interest/concern. He gave consideration to further splitting the 'Consultation' grouping but a review of the comments in this group indicated that any further sub-grouping was likely to be considered somewhat arbitrary.

Topic

Number of comments

Percentage

Consultation

26

50%

Economic

10

20%

Planning Et Process

8

15%

Supermarket

8

15%

Total

52

100%

Q6: Any other comments or observations?

Responses to this question are given at Appendix 6. There were 8 substantive comments. Further analysis was considered for these comments but was not considered appropriate and it is suggested that they are best read verbatim.

Appendix 1: Feedback Form - Pre

Stakeholder Workshop: 29 March 2007

Feedback Form - PRE

In order to assess the impact of this workshop in both the short and long term, it's important we gather some information both before and after the session.

1.How would you describe your level of understanding of the Springwood Town Centre redevelopment project?

  • Know nothing
  • Know a little
  • Know a fair bit
  • Know a lot ?

2.Why are you here today?

3. If you wanted more information on the Springwood Town Centre redevelopment project, where would you look or who would you contact?

Thank you!

Appendix 2: Feedback Form - POST

Springwood Town Centre Redevelopment Stakeholder Workshop: 29 March 2007

Feedback Form - POST

Thank you for your contribution and participation in the workshop. We hope that you have found it useful and interesting.

1. How do you rate today's workshop overall? (Please tick one)

  Poor Fair Good Excellent
Information/Content        
Structure        
Group Interaction/Exchange of views        
Venue/Refreshments        
Facilitation Process        

2.Which particular elements of the workshop did you most like or find the most useful?

3.Have you any suggestions to make future workshops more effective?

4.Having attended the workshop, what do you now feel are the two most important issues to be considered by Council as it moves forward with this project?

  •  
  •  

5.Are you interested in being keep informed of the progress of the Springwood Town Centre Redevelopment project?

If so, please provide your name:

6. Any other comments or observations?

Thank you!

Appendix 3: 'Post-it' process to identify issues under key themes

Following the introductory presentations by invited experts on a range of issues, an exercise was conducted where participants were invited to record their comments on Post-it notes (Pink). These comments were then grouped under the following broad headings:

Each grouping except 'Other' was then allocated to a table with a nominated Table Coordinator and participants invited to join a table discussion of their choice. After a period of discussion, the Table Coordinators reported back the essence of their discussion to the plenary group from butcher's paper notes.

Full transcripts of all post-its and the butcher's paper summaries are recorded below. The identifying numbers eg P1 merely identify each actual post-it note by grouping. The ordering is random.

Process

Table coordinator: David McGowan - BMCC

Post-its

  1. Research and best practice has shown (Europe, America, UK) that collaborative processes - team approaches - inclusive of community are key to good development
  2. Will today's level of consultation continue throughout the process to completion?
  3. Keep communities informed. This is a lower Mountain issues as well as a Springwood issue
  4. Legal issue. There are question on the legal ownership of land under consideration and the zoning of land
  5. Community views need to be seen as influencing the decision process
  6. More publicity on Council doings
  7. A survey type of information gathering
  8. Back to front process! The community are not the consumers of this process, they should be the drivers
  9. The process only proceeds to accepting a tenderer if the community has compensation for the use of its land

Feedback

Economic

Table coordinator: Adrian Hack - HillPDA

Post-its

  1. How do we balance the needs and perhaps rights of existing businesses to thrive while retaining Springwood character, which is...
  2. There might be need to allow the current supermarkets to expand. But don't believe there is a need for a third supermarket chain and specialty store as this would destroy Springwood's Community atmosphere
  3. Sustain viability of existing shops by building residential or offices
  4. Springwood can not sustain 3 supermarkets and 1 at Winmalee
  5. Option CC to residential? Does this improve the usage of the retail district?
  6. Traffic flow/Community facilities/Time frame/Heritage/Rental costs
  7. PPP v Government only v private only finance
  8. Why strive for major retail "national" business? Is this what we want in town?
  9. Can we identify what Springwood currently has not but needs in terms of retail/community facilities?
  10. Local jobs. Loss of commercial rate revenue due to 80% of workers travelling out of Mountains to work
  11. Springwood needs an economic draw card
  12. It is important that the whole of Springwood in revitalised so that we don't end up with a small focus shopping area and the rest of the town dies as has happened in other towns
  13. Stop the expat landlords having controlling power with their rents. This is killing Springwood
  14. Can there be a costing of the various options to identify best process?
  15. Any economic revitalisation must go hand in hand with community facilities, residential, medium density housing, and SCBP
  16. Civic Centre. There are no details on the viability of redeveloping this site. How will a developer fund the building of 3 new facilities and where will they be located?
  17. Protect current businesses. Continue village theme
  18. Small scale development only. No large supermarket. Respect existing shops and work with them. Don't ignore the. Continue small scale village theme
  19. How to improve economic viability without a third supermarket
  20. How will Council development help existing retail?
  21. The Library and CC are too old and dysfunctional. They should be replaced
  22. Break the hold that landlords have on rentals
  23. No supermarket. Look at desired future character

Feedback

  1. Increase office space
  2. Increase residential
  3. Carefully plan retail space
  4. Few landlords

Planning

Table Coordinator: Paul Cashel - BMCC

Post-its

  1. Community facilities. How are they used? What we could use?
  2. Civic Centre. What capacity of people? And use? Extra parking?
  3. Our Library is central to our town centre on ground level only - Not on top of a supermarket
  4. Vision required. 50 year time horizon given current SCC facility opened 1965
  5. Planning controls, restricting redevelopment, particularly car park
  6. Need to pursue RTA to schedule-commit to Highway interchange to Hkb Rd. and controls at Hkb/MacQ Rd. roundabout
  7. Traffic issues/Need a new to bring the traffic from GWH
  8. Hkb Rd. introduce traffic lights. Cars needed to take groceries home
  9. Active rep to RTA re the GWH/Hkb Rd. connection
  10. Desire to improve community facilities should not drive selection of site
  11. Will the process at some stage consider the condition of existing buildings/facades and their need for refurbishment
  12. IGA Festival Supermarket is doing an excellent job as it is. Give them a chance to excel. No national Supermarket
  13. Civic Centre site could be multifunction. Community Centre so attract visitors/activity in Springwood
  14. 5th Car Park. If Supermarket height? v existing view
  15. Will the view from main street be kept looking over valley south site
  16. Excessive building heights are not acceptable
  17. It is unbelievable that a national supermarket next door to an existing supermarket is a "revitalisation" of Springwood
  18. Ensure location of future development does not cost existing retail to fail, in other words should be central to existing development, not Civic Centre site
  19. How does more shops make our rent less
  20. Library and Civic Centre is to remain on ground level
  21. Redevelopment of sites/Options relating to relocation of existing Civic Centre to other sites, will it maintain the current pope size
  22. Extra parking is needed at Civic Centre
  23. Planning process/Public assets be protected
  24. What do we really want Springwood to be? Not necessarily commercial/Maybe village community centre/maybe tourism/maybe arts and crafts
  25. Is the village atmosphere important to the area?
  26. Tuckerbag Supermarket integral to any redevelopment of Civic Centre site, esp. car park access (should be a partner)
  27. Don't compromise heritage eg. Braemar
  28. Impact of future subdivisions eg. Saint Columbus, etc. Has research been done about future population movement and Springwood?

Feedback

  1. Rents will not necessarily change
  2. Community facilities and accessibility retained
  3. Village atmosphere retained. Large developments will not help
  4. Tourism has been forgotten about. New PYC etc. IVY Markets. Upgrade facilities that are already there.
  5. Density height/views
  6. Consider heritage

Traffic

Table Coordinator: Carole Young, EcoSTEPS

  1. RTA needs to develop plans for highway interchange at GWH and Hawkesbury Road
  2. Fix Macq Rd. /Hkb Rd. intersection
  3. Hkb Rd. is getting close to its peak, important to Springwood's well being
    Macq Rd. link to Hkb Rd. A bridge would be great/continuous link
  4. Meals on wheels. Over 500 meals. A week provided to seniors and people with disabilities. Require Civic Centre bus access, wheel chair access, disability parking and loading areas for pick up and drop off.
  5. Mention of age care and housing development? On road facilities for the use of age care, motorised bikes are increasing in numbers. Safe areas and parking are necessary as they use footpaths at present
  6. Trucks are not to be permitted down Macq Rd. and adjacent roads
  7. Need to ensure safe and efficient operation of the road network viz. access through subways as a pinch point
  8. Could David Road link contribute to resolving Macq Rd. roundabout congestion?
  9. David Rd. link road would require acquisition of part of the local primary school playground. This is not an option for our kids
  10. David Road is required
  11. Need to develop accessible parking. Basement parking is a must if the 3 sites are developed
  12. Issues with traffic. Not enough parking
  13. The cost of providing parking should be council's responsibility if vibrancy is to be encouraged. Have parking access from Springwood Rd. and pedestrian at Macq Rd.

Feedback

  1. The issue of congestion at Hkb/Macq. RTA commitment to on/off ramps from Highway direct to Hkb Rd. (as ultimate solution). First stage, improve Hkw/Macq Rd. roundabout (possibly signage in peak hours to modulate traffic flow)
  2. David Rd. link? (Civic Centre site issue)
  3. Age care needs - motorised scooters access - Meals on Wheels access
  4. Provision of parking - net gain and space - Basement parking
  5. Access to subways retained/expanded
  6. Control truck access generated by development

Community

Table Coordinator: Angela Langdon, BMCC

Post-its

  1. Open up East and West end toilets in Springwood. Currently they are closed
  2. Social issues - request study protection of community meeting space indoor and outside - social welfare
  3. People are important - at Seniors Centre
  4. Must consult with community first. It is not a number crunching exercise
  5. Wider community consultation must occur
  6. This is all present as though sites will be developed. When will we be asked if they should rather than how?
  7. More emphasis on social issues and less on economic issues. Develop social capital
  8. Provide more seating for elderly in town. Light up all parks in Springwood
  9. Community needs to be heard and listened to. More consultation methods
  10. Social issues need to be addressed. This forum has concentrated on the economic and commercial development issues
  11. Has the changing demographic of the area been taken into account when assessing needs? Eg. Increase in size and number of retirement facilities
  12. Willingness to view Springwood T.C. as a major lower Mountains Centre, Move away from a Springwood village concept as it may have been in the past
  13. What do we mean by village atmosphere? Retaining the existing feel of Springwood
  14. Community views more important than development issues
  15. Do a social study on the town in addition to traffic. Don't compromise heritage. Proper study on social issues.
  16. If the community facilities move to the Nth Car park, how will this be financed? (Hall, Library, etc.)
  17. Retention of present facilities at minimum. Building new facilities at best. Eg. Civic Centre, NH Centre, Library, Council Offices.
  18. Good idea - Neighbourhood Centre to Nth Carpark allows centre to be more productive to more people
  19. Will there be temporary accommodation provided during redevelopment to community groups such as Musical Society and others
  20. There needs to be a purpose built kitchen for community at present. 500 a week are cooked in current kitchen. Need loading dock/storage
  21. If the community facilities relocate to the Nth Carpark, they need to be the same size or bigger to accommodate future growth. How will this be determined?
  22. Braemer House to remain as it is now. Heritage listed
  23. Community based services need to be centrally based. WE need a Seniors Centre also a centre where in case of emergency people can be evacuated safely. Close to shops, train and buses. % aged don't drive so there is no need of parking
  24. Existing community facilities must continue to exist. Preferably upgraded and not put into pokey corners of large retail developments
  25. Feasibility of a purpose built community facility to accommodate existing community groups in Springwood
  26. What is the plan for the Civic Centre replacement if the site is redeveloped?
  27. Library is to remain at ground level. Repair, renovate, upgrade. No Library on top of Supermarket
  28. If the community facilities stay at the Civic Centre will there be an opportunity to have these facilities updated and refurbished as part of this process
  29. We need a concert performing room of a large size. Did you know that the Sydney Symphony will visit the Civic Centre in 2007 or 2008?
  30. Community kitchen and dinning room. Support for Meals on Wheels. Over 500 meats are provided to seniors and disabled from CC each week. Need easy access for wheelchairs, etc. and dock for loading
  31. Feasibility of multi purpose centre to accommodate Library/CC/Council Offices
  32. The Springwood CC is the only suitable venue for the BM Concert Society in terms of size and facilities
  33. CC to remain and to be upgraded for its thousands of uses. Repair, renovate and air condition please
  34. CC requires urgent refurbishment. We have world class musicians perform at the centre in substandard conditions
  35. CC amenities must be retained or improved. Anything else is selling it short

Feedback

  1. Community facilities - Where? Expansion? Refurbishment? Alternatives if site is developed
  2. Civic Centre heavily used by community. Location could be improved. Better links to public transport
  3. Social Study. What future? What now? Gaps? Clear terms of reference. What makes a village atmosphere? Is that the vision?
  4. More consultation - Surveys, forums, workshops

Environment

Table Coordinator: Kirsty Tepper, BMCC

Post-its

  1. BM being world heritage/It is v important that cultural and social impact is addressed before economics of large chain supermarkets who take from the areas and don't return dividends
  2. Do not lose village atmosphere
  3. Air conditioning for Civic Centre
  4. Are these buildings and carparking areas going to be built with large storage areas for water collection/rather than putting huge demand upon storm water drains? Every drop is gold
  5. Any development should work with existing environmental qualities that surround the town. Plant indigenous species and bring in the bushland theme to town (native species in town). Carbon neutral development. Water catcher and reuse. Energy catcher and reuse.
  6. Encourage bikes and pedestrians
  7. Look at enormous environmental constrains of Springwood town centre.
  8. It is very important to keep the existing view of the BM National Park from the existing town square over STH Carpark
  9. Active conservation of water of roof tops/hard surface
  10. Why can't Springwood be a special place that is different to other towns with its views, village atmosphere, and no national supermarkets?
  11. More reasonable maintenance of our town and town centre collecting litter/grass cutting
  12. We don't want Springwood to be "Penrith Heights"

Feedback

  1. Shop/Top housing/Minimise new subdivision
  2. Maintenance of existing developments
  3. Retention and storage of storm water for reuse
  4. Incorporate bushland and landscaping/Views
  5. Carbon Neutral development/Energy harvesting/Rain water harvesting
  6. Village atmosphere/How to ensure village survives while keeping village atmosphere

Other

Read out to the plenary group by Julian Crawford

Post-its

  1. Tourism promotion - bring back Wattle Festival
  2. Aged and elderly folk have problems as they age with changed developments. Hence the increase in Aged Care ie dementia care specialised areas. Change has a HUGE IMPACT.
  3. Impact on communications technology on employment and business in next 5 to 50 years
  4. No more poor quality public works.
  5. What is the age demographic for the Springwood area with relation to enticing business opportunities

Appendix 4: 'Post-it' process to identify issues by Site

Following the Pink Post-it exercise which considered issues by key themes, a similar exercise was conducted where participants were invited to record their comments on site specific issues Post-it notes (Yellow). These comments were then grouped under the following broad headings:

Each grouping except 'Other' was then allocated to a table with a nominated Table Coordinator and participants invited to join a table discussion of their choice. After a period of discussion, the Table Coordinators reported back the essence of their discussion to the plenary group from butcher's paper notes.

Full transcripts of all post-its and the butcher's paper summaries are recorded below. The identifying numbers eg P1 merely identify each actual post-it note by grouping. The ordering is random.

Northern Carpark

Table Coordinator: David McGowan, BMCC

Post-its

  1. Nth Cp Council/Community Centre/Baby Health Centre/Community Kitchen/Rear access parking/No shops
  2. With 12 m. height it would dwarf other buildings, resemble Taj Mahal?
  3. Allow the sun into main street and give views to North. Maybe better left open
  4. Tie in with existing area residential development. Shop at ground level. Parking behind. Retain view, a viewing tower?
  5. Moving CC is not an option due to noise. Move baby health centre an expand IGA store to cater for future growth
  6. Public toilets/Council Offices/Library
  7. Mixed development of retail shop tronts on street, admin and Council facilities and floor of commercial offices
  8. No development on either Nth or Sth CP than impinges on view
  9. Increase current supermarket, office space above, parking underneath
  10. Mixed ownership of land will influence any future use or redevelopment of site. Crown land is subject to many legislative controls which will require detailed analysis and full involvement early in the process
  11. Use local designers
  12. Basement parking/Shop fronts to Macq Rd. including Chamber Shop/Expand IGA onto site/First floor offices/Rooftop grassed with 360 degree views and glass gazebo coffee shop
  13. Allow IGA to expand
  14. Extend existing IGA over old Scout Hall land, then no need for another supermarket
  15. No third supermarket. Would destroy IGA. Would double or treble car parking
  16. Upgrade and expand existing IGA with underground carpark to facilitate the need
  17. Investigate native title. Has it been extinguished over the crown land site?
  18. Any developer needs to address the street and entrance to the current park
  19. Role of Nth CP as service "loop" access to shops along Northern side of Macq Rd.
  20. Expand greenway lane, make it wider. Underground carpark with development done with quality and care
  21. Basement carparking/Some Civic facilities/Neighbourhood Centre including kitchen/planned meeting areas in Neighbourhood Centre
  22. Underground parking possible (more direction of traffic left or right). New building will not necessarily reduce rents. Where will parking be if not provided by developer? N23 Need to retain carparking in whatever context that may entail

Feedback

  1. Design to include/provide community uses - Parking underneath - Views - Link 2 sites
  2. Library could relocate here - Station
  3. Expand existing
  4. Native title

Southern Car park

Table Coordinator: Paul Cashel - BMCC

Post-its

  1. Planning controls will undermine development
  2. Address tenure and legal impediments to development. Physical limitations from geometrical shape
  3. Office space. Parking underneath
  4. Should costs of excavation preclude it if we look years ahead at possible benefits?
  5. Shops at ground level. Residential over. Parking under. Retain views. Retain and encourage access to Fairy Dell. Tourist Centre. Bushwalks. Water tanks
  6. Retain town square and views
  7. Excavate for max parking facility. Possible retail shops at same scale as it exists. Council offices possible function room
  8. Build large new building to house Senior's Centre/Neighbourhood Centre/ Childcare facilities/Village Restaurant facilities/Meals on Wheels/Library and extra meeting rooms for the Service Clubs
  9. View/Carpark under. Some residential/large village square to use/Outdoor lunch area with view
  10. Not to have any visual impediment to existing bushland views ie. Building as current planning has protected this from happening
  11. No development that blocks view
  12. Views to be maintained. Can't be done with a third supermarket
  13. Should be the focus of Springwood town centre. Basement carpark. Concert/Performing Venue for 600+ sitting + associated facilities
  14. Park site to retain drainage flow path, views from town square
  15. Retain views
  16. Residential development at Sth Carpark East and West. Retain views
  17. If using this site, simply leave the town square alone and maintain the views, ie. Excavate and build out
  18. Upgrade existing use
  19. Maintain existing view of Bushland and National Park
  20. Aldi/Franklins. Small shop and retail. Large rear deck with Cafes overlooking views. Landscaping through to Springwood Avenue in central section. Underground parking
  21. Sail Cloth cover on town square
  22. Use local designers
  23. Views to South are important to town character. How can this happen with multistorey development? Monetary gains maybe one off
  24. How will it link to Macq Rd.?
  25. How to develop Sth CP and retain views and not turn Town Square into a mere thoroughfare
  26. Historical site built around well/probably fed by the spring after which Springwood is named
  27. Mountains diorama to show locals and tourists the efforts and difficulties from 1788 in crossing the Mountains

Feedback

  1. Tourism again - links to Dell, etc. - Tourist Centre
  2. C of C has a website
  3. Winmalee needs to be reviewed
  4. Town Square is not good
  5. Retain views
  6. Parking under and various types of development mainly residential plus deck for various uses, eg. Cafes and shops

Civic Centre

Table Coordinators: Angela Langdon Et Kirsty Tepper - BMCC

Post-its

  1. Maintain community facilities improve standard
  2. Keep community facilities at CC site
  3. Maintain/upgrade CC and focus on a Civic precinct at the Eastern end
  4. Redevelop but retain (as is or new) Library and Council Offices. Braemar House make it more visible/landscaping/use of slope to facilitate basement carparking
  5. More trees, tables, chairs, sail cover
  6. Refurbish/larger/air con
  7. Upgrade existing usage at this site
  8. Retain and improve existing facilities, provide more parking by multistorey or redevelop as a Performing Arts Centre and retail on street front
  9. Retain existing facilities and refurbish CC. Enlarge area by extending to West/modify large hall by extending into top meeting room
  10. Improve and maintain existing site to assist current stake holders to continue supporting local community. IVY Market has raised over 1 million dollars over 29 years for these community persons
  11. Upgrade to include air conditioning. Should be specific use for musicals and the arts/cultural
  12. Larger kitchen equipped Neighbourhood Centre
  13. Redo for the entertainment and social venue for LBM's
  14. Public toilets. CC for public use. CC for community groups to operate from
  15. The CC precinct caters to the communities cultural, intellectual and social justice needs. Braemar, Library, CC, NC. These are vital to the communities well being
  16. Refurbish/extend/air con/equipment fit out, eg. PA projector
  17. We don't have to wait for redevelopment to revitalise
  18. Upgrade, revitalise, otherwise leave them alone, ie: no development
  19. What about the NC which also has a big role on the community?
  20. Maintain all existing facilities at CC
  21. Refurbish CC. Possibly link to Library
  22. We need to renovate the CC. Get grants to extend the Library
  23. Size of main hall must be retain to meet needs. Facilities of offices and small halls need increasing. Zoning should not change refurbishment
  24. Leave it alone
  25. If the facility moves to centre of town what happens to them? Do they stay what new facilities are built?
  26. No David Rd. link to CC. It would destroy environmental protection zone which provides much of the bird life to the Springwood District
  27. No change without REAL involvement from community stake holders
  28. Community facilities are best kept at the town fringes, eg: a revamped CC rather that at Nth Carpark
  29. CC can be used in existing site and extended with gallery, Library Office, Carpark, Young People's meeting place
  30. Residential development seems appropriate for this site if new development is to occur
  31. Allow IGA to expand at CC
  32. No third supermarket at CC. It would destroy IGA. Would vastly increase need for carparking
  33. Don't swamp Braemar in any new development
  34. Retain use of Braemar as is
  35. Heritage audit
  36. Hands off Braemar
  37. CC connected to Braemar through garden courtyard. Coffee Area/Meeting place/Community meeting/Council Office/Library/Courtyards connecting with trees/Carpark under
  38. Retail limited onsite. Office suits and residential might be OK. If possible, Council to own retail/office space - revenue
  39. Use local designers
  40. Good precinct planning where the grouping of cultural, economic and professional services is taken into account. Promotes social cohesion and continuity. The CC precinct plays an important role - Library, Braemar, CC and NC. This works!
  41. Library and CC to stay on street level only
  42. CC for bringing in people. Market/Office/Parking/Plays/Music/Youth/Arts
  43. CC site to be redeveloped into culture/arts/community/entertainment/Multifunction Centre
  44. Performing Arts Centre to have at least 4 theatres and 4 rehearsal spaces + supporting facilities space. Carpark in or under core of building with offices to outer skin of building
  45. There are real problems with placing an economic focus (money making) on environments where cultural and social equity concerns are currently provided for
  46. Respect heritage precincts/guarantee community facilities/add a drama theatre/new Civic Theatre/native landscaping/make it a green development
  47. No acceptance of works that are not quality
  48. Performing arts centre for life performance/web enabled "technology" and "sitelines"/serviced offices for small businesses (incubator style?) supporting growth in performing arts
  49. Place IGA below its present site and expanded and put 100 + bed accommodation above linked to PAC and ORI
  50. Rooftop of carpark/Office building to be partially grasses and house Senior Citizens' Centre. Demolish existing CC and replace with new hall and Community Facilities
  51. Performing arts space + residential development + underground parking and Cafe development

Feedback

  1. Maintain/refurnish/upgrade/improve
  2. No major redevelopment
  3. Braemar: keep facilities together/keep at this site?/alternate: separate community and council services from performing arts space, ie: (NC, Council, Seniors) - (Performing Arts, Gallery)/need for substantial public funds/do nothing, improve presentation

Other

Read out to the plenary group by Julian Crawford

  1. Allow other supermarkets ie IGA and Tuckerbag to buy some extra land and expand. Why not support our own local shopkeepers?
  2. Why will Council not spend the money to give us toilets at each end of town whilst contemplating the sort of expenditure this project involves?
  3. Opportunity to develop hotel accommodation/conference facilities. Change retail focus - smaller supermarket like Blaxland IGA precinct
  4. Need to resolve Village v District Centre. Develop vs Downsizc. Nice views v practicality of Springwood CBD.

Appendix 5: Q4 Feedback Post- Two most important issues now

Numbering below relates to batch controlled identification of feedback forms, which allowed for two (or more) responses per person. The facilitator has then performed a rough grouping exercise after the workshop using his best judgement to draw out the main areas of interest/concern.

Grouped feedback

Grouping into headings by facilitator

Random order within grouping.

Grouping by facilitator Ref Verbatim comment
Consultation 2 That the Council takes the views of community in mind
Consultation 5 Community consultation - views and requirements
Consultation 5 Incorporating views of community and resolving how to revitalise Springwood into a thriving community
Consultation 6 Community input
Consultation 7 Public consultation
Consultation 10 Heritage and cultural and social impact
Consultation 10 Community involvement and consultation
Consultation 11 Appropriate accommodation of community services through consultation
Consultation 12 Community consultation
Consultation 14 The atmosphere of Springwood - what is it?
Consultation 15 Future of CC
Consultation 15 Future of Community Groups
Consultation 19 Community consultation
Consultation 20 Maintaining interest of all members of community
Consultation 26 Continued public consultations
Consultation 26 Confirmation that all current stake holders are included in the process and relate to their individual needs and how they cross others
Consultation 32 Take time. Do you know what the people need?
Consultation 32 Understand why and the community needs
Consultation 1 Maintain/upgrade/renovate existing CC and Library
Consultation 8 Refurbishing
Consultation 8 Under walk way to cross the Carpark
Consultation 28 Community facilities
Consultation 28 Nature of Springwood Town Centre
Consultation 30 Maintain Village
Consultation 31 Retailers in Springwood Town Centre now need to be educated on the value of having community facilities close by. This gives them a captive audience, eg: on the way home from the Library I'll buy bread and milk from the IGA or while at Baby Health Centre, I'll buy a new outfit for babs
Consultation 23 Totally new civic development on North Carpark
Economic 6 Where is the money coming from?
Economic 9 Getting something done to save Springwood and getting it done soon
Economic 16 Federal and States Funds are a must for the full value of these sites to be 16 realised
Economic 16 Local demographics are a key factor and they are more than the statistics of  numbers. Character counts
Economic 18 Increasing the residential numbers in the village
Economic 21 Support local, not national
Economic 25 "Quality" in spending money. Don't waste it, such as in consultants 25 Provide quality in services, not like cheap Margaret Rd. fix up
Economic 27 Economic sense of any proposal
Economic 30 Support local businesses and improve facilities
Planning & process 4 Further planning
Planning & process 4 Setting time frame for finalisation decision
Planning & process 19 Longer lead time - more than 2 years
Planning & process 20 Keeping control of community land
Planning & process 3 Retain village atmosphere, views, community services, meeting places, culture as well as more attractive retail
Planning & process 11 Create a vision that locals can look to such as a Performing Arts Cultural Centre - a reward jewel in the plan
Planning & process 14 Is it worth identifying, retaining, enhancing?
Planning & process 21 Retain "precinct vision statement"
Supermarket 1 Don't sell to private sector/not third supermarket/upgrade IGA supermarket at Nth Carpark
Supermarket 3 No national chain supermarket
Supermarket 12 Mixed use of Carparks, no supermarket
Supermarket 13 Not to include a third supermarket
Supermarket 13 If needed, increase existing IGA to larger superstore
Supermarket 18 Not increasing supermarket space by very much
Supermarket 23 Work with existing supermarket and encourage them to grow
Supermarket 27 Village atmosphere. Supermarket not likely to improve existing shops

Raw feedback

Unsorted. Random order. Blank responses not recorded.

1 Maintain/upgrade/renovate existing CC and Library
1 Don't sell to private sector/not third supermarket/upgrade IGA supermarket at Nth Carpark
2 That the Council takes the views of community in mind
3 No national chain supermarket
3 Retain village atmosphere, views, community services, meeting places, culture as well as more attractive retail
4 Further planning
4 Setting time frame for finalisation decision
5 Community consultation - views and requirements
5 Incorporating views of community and resolving how to revitalise Springwood into a thriving community
6 Community input
6 Where is the money coming from?
7 Public consultation
8 Refurbishing
8 Under walk way to cross the Carpark
9 Getting something done to save Springwood and getting it done soon
10 Heritage and cultural and social impact
10 Community involvement and consultation
11 Create a vision that locals can look to such as a Performing Arts Cultural Centre - a reward jewel in the plan
11 Appropriate accommodation of community services through consultation
12 Community consultation
12 Mixed use of Carparks, no supermarket
13 Not to include a third supermarket
13 If needed, increase existing IGA to larger superstore
14 The atmosphere of Springwood - what is it?
14 Is it worth identifying, retaining, enhancing?
15 Future of CC
15 Future of Community Groups
16 Federal and States Funds are a must for the full value of these sites to be realised
16 Local demographics are a key factor and they are more than the statistics of numbers. Character counts
18 Increasing the residential numbers in the village
18 Not increasing supermarket space by very much
19 Community consultation
19 Longer lead time - more than 2 years
20 Keeping control of community land
20 Maintaining interest of all members of community
21 Retain "precinct vision statement"
21 Support local, not national
23 Totally new civic development on North Carpark
23 Work with existing supermarket and encourage them to grow
24 Continued public consultations
25 "Quality" in spending money. Don't waste it, such as in consultants
25 Provide quality in services, not like cheap Margaret Rd. fix up
26 Confirmation that all current stake holders are included in the process and relate to their individual needs and how they cross others
27 Village atmosphere. Supermarket not likely to improve existing shops
27 Economic sense of any proposal
28 Community facilities
28 Nature of Springwood Town Centre
30 Maintain Village
30 Support local businesses and improve facilities
31 Retailers in Springwood Town Centre now need to be educated on the value of having community facilities close by. This gives them a captive audience, eg: on the way home from the Library I'll buy bread and milk from the IGA or while at Baby Health Centre, I'll buy a new outfit for babs
32 Take time. Do you know what the people need?
32 Understand why and the community needs

Appendix 6: Q6 Feedback Post- Any other comments?

Numbers relate to batch controlled identification of forms. Blank responses and 'No comments' have not been not recorded here.

1 Do a quality job that may take longer to decide but have fewer regrets. Don't sell out to private enterprise. Get the public strength behind it. Reinforce what we have. Don't destroy. Make Springwood distinctive. Public opinion and strength
2 I have little faith that the Council will do what is right for the community or have any will to do so. The basic premise is flawed regarding the problem. Putting a supermarket in will not solve it
3 Hopefully wide community consultation and no rush to meet December deadlines
10 Lets not rush this process. There is a huge amount to be discussed before decisions can be reached.
16 There needs to be a survey and report on the attitudes of people living here and working elsewhere. Where do they spend their money and why? Education authorities need to be involved in the planning process from here too
20 Most interesting - the similar thoughts of community. Once land is sold, assets are lost. Government funding could be a possibility
28 Very difficult project due to constraints, but an opportunity for change
32 Community functions - Art, Music, Market, Shows, Teenage, and Children's Events bring people into a community shopping centre as well as lots of shops you can find in Penrith
11 Well done
14 Thanks for the day
23 Thank you

Appendix 7: Oral Comments & Questions from the floor

David McGowan - Introduction

Tight timeframe for EOI

Themes/Issues

Council doesn't own all the land

Questions

Paul Cashel - Planning Control, BMCC

The land has been upzoned and bush fire controls will influence the site. There is a possibility of excavating and providing underground parking. The Colless site in Leura has similar zoning.

Questions

Adrian Hack - HillPDA Consultants - Economic

Questions

Adrian Bateman - GDH - Traffic

Questions

Angela Langdon - BMCC - Community Issues

Questions

Other issues raised

Clr Kevin Frappell

Cllr Frappell (Fourth Ward) made some general remarks to the group at the end of the day regarding the processes and activities that Council had followed in relation to the project over the past few years.